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Post by martinr on Feb 17, 2015 8:18:17 GMT
Looking forward to it, lets hope we travel in numbers and give the boys a very loud vocal backing!!
Regardless of their financial input of late, we owe them (and the supporters) a decent game off the back of the 4-0 drubbing we took in the Play offs last May.
Brommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by lynchmob on Feb 17, 2015 8:47:27 GMT
If we can keep 11 players on the pitch then we should give them a decent game tonight! Looking forward to a bit of revenge!!
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Post by wasky on Feb 17, 2015 10:06:06 GMT
As a neutral, and have seen both sides this season. Although not seen Bromley since there new players arrived, I have seen Ebbsfleet a couple of times and they are a little bit like strangers, and this is a good a time as any to be playing them. I would not be surprised to see a draw , or a win for Bromley. The best side I have seen so far this season has been Boreham Wood, and I expect the title to be between you two.
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Post by mikeyh on Feb 17, 2015 15:17:47 GMT
we played at Boreham wood early & drew 1-1 they were very impressive it looked like a good point for us . i keep thinking Ebbsfleet will click at some point ,hope they dont but with quality they have it seems likely . Big game tonight for sure but not like last time we went there ,its not make or break ,lots of football left to be played. Hope we do ourselves justice .
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Post by luck95 on Feb 17, 2015 16:14:54 GMT
fleet fan here, big game tonight for both sides and best of luck travelling down to the fleet
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Post by rich on Feb 17, 2015 16:23:13 GMT
Looking forward to the game later, we can't perform as badly as we did there in play offs. Just glad RS is playing. I'm gonna say this before tonite's game The Fleet won't win this league but have a horrid feeling if they make play offs they will go up, but see no reason we can't get the top spot. Come on uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Ravens
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Post by lionofglencoe on Feb 17, 2015 21:57:17 GMT
Great result lads.Looking forward to Sutton now.
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Post by AlanPep on Feb 17, 2015 22:20:19 GMT
That's a big win, well done all involved and all supporters, love to know if the pitch made a difference? #topoftheleague
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Post by wasky on Feb 17, 2015 22:26:05 GMT
Great result lads.Looking forward to Sutton now. Yes a great result tonight for Bromley on the pitch, but as a neutral a shocking performance from the Bromley fans, I was talking to someone who said some seats were broken, and sponsorship material ripped and pulled off there hoarding. This I have never seen before at any non league ground, vandalism of any sort really annoys me. It really took the gloss off a great win for Bromley, so much so that at the moment I feel I never want to go to your ground again, or watch any of your other games. Was it down to lack of stewards, or just stupid kids, surely there must be some responsible Bromley adult supporters to say, hey stop that. If they don't, report it. |
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Post by exiled on Feb 17, 2015 22:32:38 GMT
The pitch was excellent and we played superbly on it. Danny and Louis really justified their inclusion in the team, toss up for MOM between the two of them in my view, although 1 to 11 we played superbly. Ebbsfleet looked very solid, knew their trade but seemed to lack any flair. I can't see how they could have let Cook go to play Kiernan instead. It speaks volumes about them that their nominated MOM was Kedwell who barged and fouled his way through 90 minutes. If I was the chap pumping the money into that club I'd be wondering what on earth I was doing if my only return was a solid, functional and very unspectactular team. Top of the league, we must now make sure we stay there. Needless to say the next few weeks are crucial. Trips to Sutton, Chelmsford and Hemel and the home game with Ebbsfleet will be very tough, if we come out of them in a strong position you'd have to fancy us.
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Post by exiled on Feb 17, 2015 22:48:03 GMT
Wasky - I don't wish to condone some of the behaviour but why is it that a small group of Ebbsfleet fans defy all non-league convention and choose to stay at the seated end both halves? Surely the stewards should move them on, particularly where there is a risk of inflaming a potentially difficult situation. As to the stewards - how can a club so liberal with its cash justify having half a dozen stewards for a game that was always going to attract a decent crowd which would also require some "management"?
A number of older fans spoke to the group in question, particularly after our goal and, in fairness, they were reasonably well behaved from then on. Unfortunately one or two of that group take things too far and need putting into line. Whilst you are entirely at liberty never to return to a Bromley game if that is your wish, by all means, stay away - it seems a bit of an excessive reaction to me though. What I saw was 5 or 6 young idiots supporting Bromley and a similar number supporting Ebbsfleet, not a representation of the vast majority of fans of either team. Frankly, it was very small fry compared to what I've seen Wimbledon (amongst others) do at our ground on more than one occasion over the years.
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Post by rich on Feb 17, 2015 23:07:37 GMT
Reece Prestedge MOM tonite by a country mile
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Post by fleet46 on Feb 17, 2015 23:14:41 GMT
Fleet fan here.
First - the football, as someone mentioned above, we were one-dimensional and unimaginative, story of our season under Brown and now Jamie Day. We won't get into the play-offs, we are too far behind and not remotely capable of putting together the sort of run needed to do so. Looks like you have the championship nailed on. Unless Boredom Wood can recreate their early-season form, don't see anyone else making a challenge for it.
As for off-the-field, every club has idiots. We had some tonight too. But your little bunch of HLFers really are a distasteful lot. To the person above who said it didn't look that serious, tell that to the local residents who had car windows smashed after the game, gardens vandalised, kicking a car that tried to drive through them, one bloke was confronting six or seven youths with his wife outside in her nightclothes! Southern Railway has tweeted about a late train because of disruptive football fans. It's not your regular fans' fault but they're creating a nasty little reputation, as they did against Dartford I believe, and laughing it off as 'not that bad' or 'a bit of handbags' just allows them to go round doing the sort of stuff I witnessed tonight.
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Post by exiled on Feb 17, 2015 23:17:35 GMT
Fleet46 - I can only comment on what I saw at the ground. Since posting, I've read/heard plenty about what's gone on outside the ground and at the station which is, simply, criminal behaviour and should be treated as such by the club/police/public generally. No excuses.
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Post by wasky on Feb 17, 2015 23:31:52 GMT
Just read about the trouble outside the ground, surely it is about time you did something about these so called supporters. I did not realise this was such a regular thing with your club. I for one was looking forward to the next game against Ebbsfleet, I will not go now as I can only see trouble at this game.
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Post by teabartom on Feb 17, 2015 23:40:03 GMT
Bromley based Fleet Supporter here - firstly well done and expect Bromley to justly get promoted this year (you should have done last year after that great run). Fleet will be at least another season in Conf Sth but currently look devoid of ideas and passion.
On the supporters - as an occasional visitor to Hayes Lane I know it to be a welcoming and friendly place. However I have noticed what can only be described as 'Crystal Palace (or Homesdale Fanatics to be precise)mini me's are starting to give you a potentially damaging reputation. You've already heard from Fleet46 and wasky and there is photographic as well as verbal evidence of what this small number of idiots got up to on the way to the station breaking a number of wing mirrors. I do hope that the majority of excellent fans Bromley prevail letting this small number of youngsters that they need to behave or just wont be accepted at Hayes Lane.
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Post by bromley on Feb 18, 2015 0:22:54 GMT
What a fantastic win and a fantastic night, BROOOOOMMMMM
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Post by Swaine's Ginger Cat on Feb 18, 2015 9:50:19 GMT
On the pitch it looks clear that whilst Ebbsfleet may have spent a lot of money on signing players from higher divisions, they haven’t got a team. Danny may not have stood out last night, but players like him, Swaine & Holland showed they wanted it more. Jamie Day did wonders as Welling, but he’s got a bit of work to do to turn this outfit into a serious play off team even. Interesting that they were in the play offs I think when they sacked Brown?
The back 4 were brilliant last night & Julian was faultless when called on. But Reece, wow, what a game & not just for the goal. To think we’ve got PJD out injured still too……
Off the pitch, I never like going to Ebbsfleet as there’s always a very small number of their fans who insist on staying behind that goal all game, defying normal non-league convention. We’ve been given abuse by them before, much of it unpleasant, but at the same time, never needed to tear out chairs or cause trouble outside the ground.
The telling thing for me is always whether the people causing trouble are genuine fans of the club. How many of that group wore a Bromley hat or scarf? How many really associate themselves with Bromley FC? The club have had around 1000 the last few home games without I think most of the trouble makers there. So if there was cctv or anything to identigy them (saw some pics on twitter last night) we as a club won’t lose out by banning them.
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Post by soovy on Feb 18, 2015 10:23:48 GMT
I don't go down to Ebbsfleet all that much, mainly because the football is rather dire of late, but what I saw last night from some Bromley fans saddened me.
About 30-40 youths came straight to the covered end before the game and the war of words started straight away, there were families, children and grandparents sat there with their flasks of tea waiting for the game to start, only for these cretins to start shouting vile and abusive language, no one likes to hear that.
At the end, I was in the covered end of the ground and 2 Bromley fans, can't have been more than 15 years old, came up to one of our fans trying to organise fights, I mean, what are Bromley going to do about it? Will they be replacing the broken seats that I saw? Will they be replacing the advertising banners that they ripped off?
Sorry Bromley but that's just not good enough, at any level.
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Post by footballexcl on Feb 18, 2015 12:39:14 GMT
Non-League media outlet Football Exclusives Ltd, have set up a JustGiving page to help raise funds to repair damage caused to residents and local business cars and property on the aftermath of the recent football match. On Tuesday 17th February, Ebbsfleet United played Bromley at Stonebridge Road in the Conference South. Bromley won the local Kent derby 1-0, but despite the win several fans, believed to 'support' Bromley FC, reportedly took it upon themselves to cause havoc in the local area. Football Exclusives, aims to raise funds to restore the faith of local residents who have been affected by the vandalism caused to their property, as well as Ebbsfleet United Football Club. Mike Bandry, founder of Football Exclusives, said: “As non-league football fans ourselves, we know that mindless acts of vandalism are very rare and that every non-league football club harbours a unique selfless community. “What better way is there for the various non-league communities to all club together and help innocent bystanders who have been victim of stupidity from individuals and groups calling themselves so-called fans.” HOW WILL THE MONEY BE SPENT?
Football Exclusives are trying to raise as much money as possible to pay for the damage caused to local residents cars and property as well as the repairs needed in Stonebridge Road. Any funds left over will be passed on to a charity of Ebbsfleet United's choice. To make a donation please visit: www.justgiving.com/yimby/NonLeagueCommunity#nonleaguecommunity
To add, we have spoken to Ebbsfleet United and Kent FA this morning, both think its a great idea. On a more positive note, Great result for Bromley last night |
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Post by MottinghamRaven on Feb 18, 2015 13:18:07 GMT
I am fuming. Im sure Ebbsfleet do think that this is a great idea...
Make those little rich kid pricks parents pay. Majority of them got off round Blackbrook Lane/Bickley last night. Don't get much change out of a £1 million for a house round there.
Plenty of CCTV from the game and at the station, and pictures from the game, so when the Police catch up with them (which they will), they can pay damages.
Not quite sure why the honest Bromley fans (whilst I agree Ebbsfleet & the locals SHOULD NOT pick up the bill themselves) should pick up the tab for a load of hanger-on rich boy public school boy pricks.
I appreciate the sentiment behind this gesture, but IMO its asking the wrong people, and relying on the goodwill of the non-league community to pick up the tab for a bunch of dickheads.
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Post by Swaine's Ginger Cat on Feb 18, 2015 13:32:05 GMT
Agree 100% Mottingham Raven. this is not a natural disaster, or illness etc, this is criminal damage & the people responsible should pay.
The people who did the damage should be made to make things right whether by paying financially or being made to clear up/replace things or whatever through the courts.
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Post by footballexcl on Feb 18, 2015 13:46:23 GMT
I am fuming. Im sure Ebbsfleet do think that this is a great idea... Make those little rich kid pricks parents pay. Majority of them got off round Blackbrook Lane/Bickley last night. Don't get much change out of a £1 million for a house round there. Plenty of CCTV from the game and at the station, and pictures from the game, so when the Police catch up with them (which they will), they can pay damages. Not quite sure why the honest Bromley fans (whilst I agree Ebbsfleet & the locals SHOULD NOT pick up the bill themselves) should pick up the tab for a load of hanger-on rich boy public school boy pricks. I appreciate the sentiment behind this gesture, but IMO its asking the wrong people, and relying on the goodwill of the non-league community to pick up the tab for a bunch of dickheads. Completely agree with that, unfortunately, until the culprits are caught its the residents having to pick up the bill. Any help raising awareness is greatly appreciated. |
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Post by MottinghamRaven on Feb 18, 2015 14:54:31 GMT
I am fuming. Im sure Ebbsfleet do think that this is a great idea... Make those little rich kid pricks parents pay. Majority of them got off round Blackbrook Lane/Bickley last night. Don't get much change out of a £1 million for a house round there. Plenty of CCTV from the game and at the station, and pictures from the game, so when the Police catch up with them (which they will), they can pay damages. Not quite sure why the honest Bromley fans (whilst I agree Ebbsfleet & the locals SHOULD NOT pick up the bill themselves) should pick up the tab for a load of hanger-on rich boy public school boy pricks. I appreciate the sentiment behind this gesture, but IMO its asking the wrong people, and relying on the goodwill of the non-league community to pick up the tab for a bunch of dickheads. Completely agree with that, unfortunately, until the culprits are caught its the residents having to pick up the bill. Any help raising awareness is greatly appreciated. I agree that until such time, its EUFC & residents who are out of pocket. That is grossly unfair also, but at the moment unavoidable. As said by SwainesGC, this isn't a natural disaster, it a criminal matter. Having said that, whilst not condoning the cu*tish behaviour all night from these pricks, i'd hate any money whatsoever to go to the chap who thinks wielding two saws at people on the streets is acceptable. Just as bad as the rest. Doubt very much he was a "traveller", as he was bemoaning "you c*nts waking my kids up, I'm going to come back here and burn the lot of you". Obviously lived in the houses near the station. This prick also needs finding, and dealing with by the authorities. Raising awareness... Im all over it, and these pricks on Twitter. I see @the_HLF on Twitter has been deactivated.... |
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Post by fleetfan1 on Feb 18, 2015 15:35:51 GMT
This will be my only entry on your forum as I normally do not believe in intruding on other fans' forums. This is different. May I take the opportunity to give both Bromley FC's Board and the Bromley supporters a round of applause for their quick and decisive action in ridding football of this appalling group of idiots - good luck with that!
When it comes down to the game well done on your win and going top of the division. I think our recent performances show how much work we still have to do to produce a successful team, but I hope we will meet in season 2016-17 (can't see us making the play-offs this time around).
I just hope that the return game soon will be peaceful and the game better quality than last night.
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Post by joe95 on Feb 18, 2015 23:35:35 GMT
A quick comment on the 'Fleet fans who stay at that end. It's always been that way. It isn't to cause trouble or anything, just to try and create a bit of noise whilst standing behind the goal. You can't turn up and just expect them to move 'because it's non league'.
The trouble last night was quite pathetic, but they will be caught and punished. As for the game in three weeks, although I don't think there will be any trouble - I wouldn't be massively surprised if there is. Segregation is needed definitely. We have a little break (no game on Saturday) so hopefully come back fresh and put a run of wins together. Can't see past you lot for the league now. From your perspective, it's just a shame that some idiots ruined a good night (on the field) for you.
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Post by gingerfooligan on Feb 19, 2015 9:08:15 GMT
A quick comment on the 'Fleet fans who stay at that end. It's always been that way. It isn't to cause trouble or anything, just to try and create a bit of noise whilst standing behind the goal. You can't turn up and just expect them to move 'because it's non league'. The trouble last night was quite pathetic, but they will be caught and punished. As for the game in three weeks, although I don't think there will be any trouble - I wouldn't be massively surprised if there is. Segregation is needed definitely. We have a little break (no game on Saturday) so hopefully come back fresh and put a run of wins together. Can't see past you lot for the league now. From your perspective, it's just a shame that some idiots ruined a good night (on the field) for you. I agree with you Joe that the Ebbsfleet fans should be able to watch the game from wherever they want without being harassed. The same goes for the Bromley fans who follow the non-league tradition of swapping ends (pretty much what all the "behind the goal" fans at this level do). This is a situation that appears to have snowballed from the 1st leg of last year's playoffs where one of Ebbsfleet's fooligans (ginger-haired you probably know him) and his cronies took exception with the Bromley fans' flag in "their end" with plenty of verbals and a pint of beer thrown by one of them. Both he and his bigger-boned friend (thinking pc here) then watched the second half with the majority of Bromley fans for no reason other to antagonise. This by no means excuses what happened on Tuesday as quite frankly it is inexcusable but just to fill you in on something you may not have been aware of. |
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Post by joe95 on Feb 19, 2015 10:07:18 GMT
I was fully aware of what happened at the game in the play offs. The two were spoken to (by your stewards who were at the first leg) before even entering the ground at Hayes Lane. Not saying what they did was right, but it's minor in comparison - considering it didn't even kick off last year.
Let's just hope they're dealt with through the right channels and you don't have any of this again as it will seriously damage the rep of your Club if it happens again.
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Post by leftred on Feb 19, 2015 10:19:30 GMT
A quick comment on the 'Fleet fans who stay at that end. It's always been that way. It isn't to cause trouble or anything, just to try and create a bit of noise whilst standing behind the goal. You can't turn up and just expect them to move 'because it's non league'. The trouble last night was quite pathetic, but they will be caught and punished. As for the game in three weeks, although I don't think there will be any trouble - I wouldn't be massively surprised if there is. Segregation is needed definitely. We have a little break (no game on Saturday) so hopefully come back fresh and put a run of wins together. Can't see past you lot for the league now. From your perspective, it's just a shame that some idiots ruined a good night (on the field) for you. I agree with you Joe that the Ebbsfleet fans should be able to watch the game from wherever they want without being harassed. The same goes for the Bromley fans who follow the non-league tradition of swapping ends (pretty much what all the "behind the goal" fans at this level do). This is a situation that appears to have snowballed from the 1st leg of last year's playoffs where one of Ebbsfleet's fooligans (ginger-haired you probably know him) and his cronies took exception with the Bromley fans' flag in "their end" with plenty of verbals and a pint of beer thrown by one of them. Both he and his bigger-boned friend (thinking pc here) then watched the second half with the majority of Bromley fans for no reason other to antagonise. This by no means excuses what happened on Tuesday as quite frankly it is inexcusable but just to fill you in on something you may not have been aware of. Hi, (Edit* I've taken my first paragraph out as having had another read it of the board it was a little unfair and probably an incorrect point*) What happened last year was embarrassing for us and shouldn't of happened. But do you really think the two "fooligans" had any bearing on the massive group of kids who turned up hell bent on causing trouble, smashing seats, and eventually went on to put windows through this year? I will also correct you, without attempting to justify their behaviour, but for the record they weren't responding to a flag in their end but to a torrent of verbal abuse that came from Bromley fans in the first half. The events occurred in isolation, they are both twatish things but are barely comparable for the levels of wanton violence and destruction. As for the standing in the same end all game, this is very much a by product of the segregated conference days, when most games you went to you would inevitably spend the whole match in one half and the plough end has become where they stand throughout all games at home. No other club has had a problem with this, no other club has seen this as a good reason to then go on a rampage through the local area. If that presence of other teams fans is all it takes to antagonise a Bromley fan, then I would suggest there is a deeper seated problem with your fanbase then you think. Luckily I don't think this is the case, but at the same time I wouldn't go around trying to make us aware of facts when your "fans" are the only ones who have got the hump about it. On another note I will agree the stewarding let down the club some what, and the issue in the ground on Tuesday could of been resolved earlier. And top work for your security who resolved the issue on their behalf. And yes the police probably should of been rang (this is a lot of failing I know) but none of this excuses the fact that a group of fans who on paper represented your club decided to go off and create havoc outside of the ground. Regardless of the standard of stewarding this shouldn't be happening. |
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Post by gingerfooligan on Feb 19, 2015 11:00:04 GMT
I agree with you Joe that the Ebbsfleet fans should be able to watch the game from wherever they want without being harassed. The same goes for the Bromley fans who follow the non-league tradition of swapping ends (pretty much what all the "behind the goal" fans at this level do). This is a situation that appears to have snowballed from the 1st leg of last year's playoffs where one of Ebbsfleet's fooligans (ginger-haired you probably know him) and his cronies took exception with the Bromley fans' flag in "their end" with plenty of verbals and a pint of beer thrown by one of them. Both he and his bigger-boned friend (thinking pc here) then watched the second half with the majority of Bromley fans for no reason other to antagonise. This by no means excuses what happened on Tuesday as quite frankly it is inexcusable but just to fill you in on something you may not have been aware of. Hi, (Edit* I've taken my first paragraph out as having had another read it of the board it was a little unfair and probably an incorrect point*) What happened last year was embarrassing for us and shouldn't of happened. But do you really think the two "fooligans" had any bearing on the massive group of kids who turned up hell bent on causing trouble, smashing seats, and eventually went on to put windows through this year? I will also correct you, without attempting to justify their behaviour, but for the record they weren't responding to a flag in their end but to a torrent of verbal abuse that came from Bromley fans in the first half. The events occurred in isolation, they are both twatish things but are barely comparable for the levels of wanton violence and destruction. As for the standing in the same end all game, this is very much a by product of the segregated conference days, when most games you went to you would inevitably spend the whole match in one half and the plough end has become where they stand throughout all games at home. No other club has had a problem with this, no other club has seen this as a good reason to then go on a rampage through the local area. If that presence of other teams fans is all it takes to antagonise a Bromley fan, then I would suggest there is a deeper seated problem with your fanbase then you think. Luckily I don't think this is the case, but at the same time I wouldn't go around trying to make us aware of facts when your "fans" are the only ones who have got the hump about it. On another note I will agree the stewarding let down the club some what, and the issue in the ground on Tuesday could of been resolved earlier. And top work for your security who resolved the issue on their behalf. And yes the police probably should of been rang (this is a lot of failing I know) but none of this excuses the fact that a group of fans who on paper represented your club decided to go off and create havoc outside of the ground. Regardless of the standard of stewarding this shouldn't be happening. |
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