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Post by se20blue on Apr 23, 2015 10:22:58 GMT
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Post by simples on Apr 23, 2015 10:54:14 GMT
Oi CB, looks like your mate's back!!
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cliff
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Post by cliff on Apr 23, 2015 11:16:05 GMT
I only thought this weekend that SE20blue + Sound who are very vocal in the not-so-good times have nothing to say when it all comes good!
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Post by will on Apr 23, 2015 12:04:04 GMT
I only thought this weekend that SE20blue + Sound who are very vocal in the not-so-good times have nothing to say when it all comes good! Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I daresay after winning the league and obtaining promotion to the highest level of football in the club's history, the folk behind the scenes have probably had more pressing issues on their plate this week than worrying about which website is releasing a story about the new pitch, but there we go. There's not been a huge amount to complain about lately so the OP had to find something I guess. |
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Post by simples on Apr 23, 2015 12:22:22 GMT
yes, but that's no excuse for the typo in the Saturday's match report on the website. I don't like to bring it up but how can you spell the word 'cannon' with only one 'n' in the middle? I shall be withdrawing my support immediately!
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Post by bromley on Apr 23, 2015 19:02:13 GMT
It's probably a Kentish Football exclusive so the club probably can't put it on the website due to copyright, etc.
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Post by rich on Apr 23, 2015 19:19:43 GMT
there's only one Jerry Dolke, BFC legend, let's give him a rousing reception on Saturday
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Post by se20blue on Apr 23, 2015 19:34:51 GMT
Just to make it clear
Bromley will make the headlines as they will become the first club in the Vanarama National League to play their home games on a 3G pitch, which will be laid at their iconic 76-year-old Hayes Lane stadium next month.
This should have been announced to the Bromley supporters on the official site.
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Post by grerman on Apr 23, 2015 21:41:02 GMT
I dread to think what se20blue's ClubCall bills were in the 90's...
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Post by CB on Apr 23, 2015 23:13:44 GMT
Much as it pains me to say it, I have some sympathy with SE20 on this. Not a great deal, because I think complaining about the way an undemocratic organisation operates is tilting at windmills... It isn't going to achieve very much, in large part for the reasons that Mr Dolke reveals in his (unintentionally?) revealing interview. I quote:
'It became very evident to the football club to have a budget that it competed with this year that the business needs to generate significant income and not just directors putting money into a football club because that can’t continue so the football club has to come self-sustaining.'
This tells you why SE20's complaints re: communication between the Club and supporters rarely achieve very much... As most people reading this already knew, the supporters were never the financial lifeblood of the Club. As per many non-league clubs, had we been obliged to survive on gate and bar receipts solely, we wouldn't have survived at all. The fact that directors, investors and occasionally individual supporters had to prop us up with regular injections of cash is precisely why a command structure which bypasses the fans was created and tolerated: in a sense, we weren't that important - and were treated accordingly.
However, it is worth looking further at what Jerry reveals in the above piece. He makes it clear that this mode of business is one the Club can no longer sustain. Instead, he wants a Club where the football - and the subsidiary businesses serving it - are self-sustaining, which is to say where the income from supporters, sponsors and other commercial interests negates the need for regular bail-outs. This is a very different model from the old one - a model in which the supporter assumes far greater importance than previously. Indeed, we should draw a distinction here between supporters - whose loyalty is absolute, and can be depended upon to turn up each week and spend heavily doing so - and customers: new blood quite apart from the stalwarts who read this forum whom the Club will need to attract in their hundreds and thousands if it wants to become truly self-sustaining. Supporters are loyal, customers are fickle... And will take their business elsewhere at the merest suggestion that they are being mugged off.
SE20 may be unpopular with many people on this site (and probably in the hierarchy) but his whinging illustrates a question the Club will have to address as it attempts to cut it in the professional game. Will it be able to adjust its culture to the demands of the customer, or will it continue to treat them as supporters alone? That is a key difference between a typical 'non-league' club and a professional one... And in tandem with activities on the (3G) pitch next season, the answer to this question will determine whether we can truly establish ourselves in the full-time game... or plunge back into the primordial soup from which we have only just started to emerge.
Sorry to get all serious on yo' asses before Gosport.
WORD.
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Post by lynchmob on Apr 24, 2015 7:10:44 GMT
Bloody hell CB, that was a long winded way of telling us that football clubs don't give a Brad Pitte about supporters. Found that out years ago when supporting a club that doesn't rely on money from the fan to sustain itself!!
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Post by col on Apr 24, 2015 7:21:32 GMT
Gonna support SE20Blue on this, it's a very big develoment to announce on another website. Quite a scoop for Stephen.
As I've said I am not a fan of football on plastic, but in the modern game if you don't have money your opinion doesn't count.
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Post by CB on Apr 24, 2015 14:11:48 GMT
That was pretty much my point, Col. But if the Club is to be truly self-sustaining, that has to change - for the reasons I attempted to delineate above.
Fans will tolerate being treated in this way, because fans will tolerate anything. But in the professional game you're competing with any number of other leisure interests - and customers will soon go elsewhere if they feel short-changed.
We say these things because we want Bromley to go from strength to strength, amen and amen.
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