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Post by bromley on Apr 7, 2015 15:27:13 GMT
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Post by MottinghamRaven on Apr 7, 2015 15:48:36 GMT
Bloody hell - Alan Julian's reaction to the 4th goal says it all. Not a happy man. Think the players don't care? Watch that a couple of times to change your mind!
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Post by exiled on Apr 7, 2015 17:11:44 GMT
Firstly, based on the highlights, we should be quite satisfied to have got a point out of that (I think that was the general consensus of those who travelled too). Maidenhead have always been somewhat of a "bogey" team for us and the close timing to the Boreham Wood game probably made it difficult to re-focus and re-energise. The patchwork defence (which admittedly served us well on Saturday) clearly did not help with a couple of the goals. Absolutely no questioning of commitment though, the reactions after at least a couple of their goals (both ours and theirs) shows that those wearing the shirt care and want to win. Saturday's second half has to be a catalyst both on the pitch and in the stands as to what we should be doing in our remaining home games and 4 more halves of Hayes Lane football like that should see us there or thereabouts.
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Post by Swaine's Ginger Cat on Apr 7, 2015 18:53:13 GMT
Julian should probably take the coaching tactics class this week. He was trying every trick in the book to run the game down just like they were 1st half, & then that happened. It's nice some of the time that we lack the cynical play of some other teams, but you can't play your way out of this league all the time.
I agree too that you can't question the commitment of the players, or some of the talk about not wanting to win the league. Anderson, Swaine, Holland, Fuiseni, Waldron,Goldberg, Dennis all missed out last season, I can't believe they'd be happy missing out again - when has Danny ever given the impression he's here for the money, he turned down Welling a couple of years ago, im sure he wants a league winners medal to his name
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Post by CB on Apr 7, 2015 19:05:42 GMT
Bloody hell - Alan Julian's reaction to the 4th goal says it all. Not a happy man. Think the players don't care? Watch that a couple of times to change your mind! Where do these myths come from? We who have the audacity to participate in a public forum get accused of many things: whinging, criticising management, asking difficult questions - some of which at times are true. But I do not recall a single post from anyone on here in recent weeks or months implying that the players didn't care. This forum has the power to bamboozle minds, it seems. Or perhaps the threshold of what it means to be a 'loyal fan' has reached its ultimate, North Korean conclusion - and the only acceptable reaction to any and all outcomes is 'YAY!'
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Post by jamestanner on Apr 7, 2015 20:24:34 GMT
If you ever where in doubt that players were not playing for that badge or didnt want to win than go no further than the example of Reece Prestedge. All I could hear on yesterday was "WE DONT LOSE THIS F*CKING GAME ALRIGHT?" or words of encouragement along those lines. Its just mistakes and things just not going our way that has ended up in poor results this season.
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Post by CB on Apr 7, 2015 21:17:29 GMT
Fully agree - it was a captain's performance all game from Mr Prestedge.
As for Julian: I can't work out whether his extreme irascibility helps or hinders the back line. He was blowing a gasket in the first half, but arguably was at fault for one or two goals. The other issue is his (alleged) time-wasting. I point no fingers here, but merely repeat what I have heard whinged about quite consistently since Bath. Even the News Shopper report picked up on that, describing the team as deploying 'blatant' time-wasting tactics.
To his credit, at Bath I heard MG yelling at the offenders to desist and play the game.
Speaking of MG, there seemed to be an almighty barney (and evidence of dissent) between the bench and Joe Anderson on Saturday. I don't know what it was about but there was a lot of finger-pointing and shouting from both sides. Very probably innocuous and forgotten about after the match, I have no idea. It didn't quite match up to the b*llocking Drax Hippolyte dished out to his keeper, which included the immortal line: 'Wait 'till you get inside, son!'
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Post by Swaine's Ginger Cat on Apr 7, 2015 21:48:31 GMT
We'll still miss Drax next year when Maidenhead pack him off this summer (assuming we don't go up anyway), he was decent enough to acknowledge us with a smile a while back after some ribbing
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Post by CB on Apr 7, 2015 22:06:58 GMT
I had to laugh when one of the Maidenhead wags piped up with 'Found your new job then!' after Drax went to the side of the pitch to chuck some rubbish in a bin at the end of the first-half. He ignored it at first, but the wag continued with 'Eh? Eh, Drax?'
He looked up for a second, then looked away with a smile on his face. 'Top bantz' taken in the spirit it was intended.
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Post by colo on Apr 8, 2015 2:15:55 GMT
I prefer to finish tenth, to lose everything as usual at the end.It is the first time that I have this weird feeling of distrust towards a team.It is no coincidence that always towards the end begins our descent?
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Post by MottinghamRaven on Apr 8, 2015 8:26:54 GMT
Bloody hell - Alan Julian's reaction to the 4th goal says it all. Not a happy man. Think the players don't care? Watch that a couple of times to change your mind! Where do these myths come from? We who have the audacity to participate in a public forum get accused of many things: whinging, criticising management, asking difficult questions - some of which at times are true. But I do not recall a single post from anyone on here in recent weeks or months implying that the players didn't care. This forum has the power to bamboozle minds, it seems. Or perhaps the threshold of what it means to be a 'loyal fan' has reached its ultimate, North Korean conclusion - and the only acceptable reaction to any and all outcomes is 'YAY!' I've definitely read both on here in certain threads, and on Twitter people moaning about why would the players care anyway, when they're on X amount of money, and on a two year contract.... I for one as a former sportsman of a high level, I have never and would never question the players commitment, as I simply cannot imagine any sportsman without the will and desire to win and the mindset needed that goes with it. Anyway, not getting into a keyboard war over it, it was my initial reaction upon watching back the highlights, and to anybody out there whinging (of which there are a few...) who think that players are just going through the motions and don't give a toss, you can quite clearly see that isn't the case.
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Post by col on Apr 8, 2015 8:52:30 GMT
You don't score goals like the one Moses got on Monday if you are just going through the motions, the players obviously want this. It looks like we were lucky to get a point given the chances Maidenhead missed though. I just hope we get a few more players for before Saturday, some work on defending set pieces and concentrating late on required.
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Post by CB on Apr 8, 2015 11:24:57 GMT
Where do these myths come from? We who have the audacity to participate in a public forum get accused of many things: whinging, criticising management, asking difficult questions - some of which at times are true. But I do not recall a single post from anyone on here in recent weeks or months implying that the players didn't care. This forum has the power to bamboozle minds, it seems. Or perhaps the threshold of what it means to be a 'loyal fan' has reached its ultimate, North Korean conclusion - and the only acceptable reaction to any and all outcomes is 'YAY!' I've definitely read both on here in certain threads, and on Twitter people moaning about why would the players care anyway, when they're on X amount of money, and on a two year contract.... I for one as a former sportsman of a high level, I have never and would never question the players commitment, as I simply cannot imagine any sportsman without the will and desire to win and the mindset needed that goes with it. Anyway, not getting into a keyboard war over it, it was my initial reaction upon watching back the highlights, and to anybody out there whinging (of which there are a few...) who think that players are just going through the motions and don't give a toss, you can quite clearly see that isn't the case. I may have taken the bait a tad too firmly, no offence to you MR. It's a stressful time..! However, I'm sure I'm not the only one now wondering which team you once played for. Do we have a ringer in our midst??
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Post by MottinghamRaven on Apr 8, 2015 15:53:28 GMT
I've definitely read both on here in certain threads, and on Twitter people moaning about why would the players care anyway, when they're on X amount of money, and on a two year contract.... I for one as a former sportsman of a high level, I have never and would never question the players commitment, as I simply cannot imagine any sportsman without the will and desire to win and the mindset needed that goes with it. Anyway, not getting into a keyboard war over it, it was my initial reaction upon watching back the highlights, and to anybody out there whinging (of which there are a few...) who think that players are just going through the motions and don't give a toss, you can quite clearly see that isn't the case. I may have taken the bait a tad too firmly, no offence to you MR. It's a stressful time..! However, I'm sure I'm not the only one now wondering which team you once played for. Do we have a ringer in our midst?? No offence taken at all CB - was just clarifying the original post which probably didn't come across how I meant it to! Agreed its a stressful time... but a bloody exciting one too! Alas I wasn't a former player CB - but i was a cyclist who represented Great Britain both here and abroad, racing to international level, and also a former British Champion.
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Post by CB on Apr 8, 2015 23:06:27 GMT
A good point, MR. As I said above, let us celebrate the fact we're still in with a massive shout with three weeks of the season left. It may well go to the wire which (whatever happens) will ensure it's been a hell of a ride. Every point has been vital, no dead rubbers.
Bloody hell, mate - you weren't joking!
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